After interviewing me on his radio show, "Live from Criswell," Dr. Barry Creamer received the following listener response on his web site. With the permission of Dr. Creamer, I've copied the text and pasted it here (unedited) to issue my own response.
Hi Dr. Creamer,
Approximately how much “air time” do you think Jesus would allow Mr. Smalley to have in order to spread his message against his Father? It wasn’t your interview with Mr. Smalley that completely saddended me. It was your comments that Mr. Smalley was actually a “very nice guy” and you enjoyed your time with him. The face of God is against Mr. Smalley and the spirit of the anti-christ is in him.
As a teacher of the Truth, you are held to a higher standard by God…as you know. Satan is the master of deception. Under the cover of “tolerance”, Satan made his way into the studios of Criswell College and got a huge platform at the hands of KCBI.
Mr. Smalley is a fool. He can bow down now, or he can bow down later…but he will bow down.
One more thing, I cannot believe that so-called “believing” churches in our area are inviting this anti-christ to sit down amongst them and have a conversation concering his anti-christ message. Makes you think…who exactly is the fool here…
Rebuke Mr. Smalley in the name of Jesus and allow God to turn him towards repentance and complete trust in the atoning sacrifice of His son…or not. God is sovereign. Step out of the way before Satan pulls everybody in with “nice” Mr. Smalley.
Let me start by saying that I understand your concern, and realize that scripturally, you have valid points. After all, it is Matthew 12:30 that says, “He who is not with me is against me…” and Mark 9:40 that says, “for whoever is not against us is for us.”
I do not take your animosity personally, as I understand it is your religious convictions and faith that lead you to believe the way you do. I will not hold that against you, as I understand how powerful that can be.
What I stand for, is more of a civil rights issue than a religious one. You should know; if the U.S. President announced today that Christianity was no longer allowed to be practiced in this country, I’d be on the picket lines with you, fighting for your constitutional rights, and freedom of religion.
I do not wish to see a complete banishment of Christianity. I do, however, want to stand for the freedom of all citizens in this country, and prevent the discrimination of all people, regardless of their religious views. This was intended to be a free country, not a Christian nation.
My children should not have to go to a public school and be ridiculed for not believing. Families should not be separated with members ostracized due to religious convictions. Qualified applicants should not be turned down for government jobs due to a lack of belief. A person should not be considered “unethical” until they identify with a religion.
But why do we debate? The whole point here is, the Atheist says to all religions, “Before you will control my government, my family, or my career, you need to supply more proof than just faith.”
I must also point out that the “A” in Atheist does not represent “Anti” or “Against,” but rather “without.” The theist holds a belief in a deity, while the a-theist is without that belief. It’s really that simple. Saying that an Atheist is the opposite (or anti) any particular religion is like saying a doctor is the opposite of a disease. He studies it, and fights it from time to time, but also respects its power, while questioning its intent.
We stand aside from all belief systems, (including Satanic ones) saying each is without sufficient proof. As Dr. David Eller confirms in his book Atheism Advanced, the Atheist is more of one that discredits religions than opposes them directly (2007).
Mr. Hardt, people can be nice without religions. Adults can debate without hate. Opening the educational views on the airwaves of 90.9 KCBI allows Christian listeners to better deal with Atheists they encounter, and vice versa for Atheists encountering Christians. More than anything, it was important for listeners to hear an educated conversation between two men that disagreed without anger. If we had more of that, I honestly think the world would be a better place.
I’m not sure what you did last night, but I took my children out to eat at Logan’s Roadhouse, where we threw peanut shells on the floor, and ate desert out of tiny peanut buckets. I tucked my 5-year-old daughter into bed at 9, and realized that I forgot a permission slip for my son to play basketball at school, resulting in an email to his teacher begging for forgiveness.
I managed to have 2 solid hours of phone conversations with Christian preachers that are very good friends of mine, one of which I am debating in March. Once the kids were asleep, I continued my research into PhD programs, which I plan to enter early next year, to become a licensed psychologist.
My life isn’t much different from yours, aside from what we consider to be proof of a religion. I just don’t trust that what those men wrote as scriptures was inspired by something powerful, other than their own hopes and beliefs.
I assure you, I don’t have time to be the Anti-Christ—and I can’t imagine it paying very well at all.