Aug 1, 2012

Attacking the Mind

A listener by the name of Christina has a serious situation going with her family, with religion as the primary cause. I am making this public with Cristina's permission because I sincerely hope the atheist community can put our heads together and come up with possible solutions for her...


Dear David,
 
My father was diagnosed as Bipolar when I was a teenager. He lives abroad with his girlfriend who is very religious and has been burying himself in scripture. Because he is Bipolar he tends to lob onto things and makes it his world. 

A few weeks ago he sent me a letter basically laying out the end of the world and the coming of Jesus and included a few pics of clouds he took in which he circled a few clouds, named them and said this was his evidence for the second coming. 

Oh, and Jesus is coming in the form of aliens.[sic]

I understand that his condition is pushing him into the realm of inconceivable, but I can't help but blame the religious leaders and the horrific things in Revelations that fuel this. 

The religious are giving him a pass for his intense faith instead of recognizing that he needs medical mental help. He has attempted suicide before and being on the other side of the world, I feel helpless. All I can try to do is talk sense into a man who has no sense left, and appeal to his emotions that I love and care for him. 

I want people to know that by couching irrationality as faith, you might miss the signs of someone in need of real mental help. Another grave example of "What's the Harm?"


                                              -Christina

Christina,

For thousands of years, religions have preyed on those with limited mental capacities to defend themselves, and I'm so sorry to hear that it's currently happening to your father. I want you to know, first and foremost, this is why we fight.

Your email is one of the more difficult ones to respond to, because your father is so far way, and because his struggle with bi-polar disorder probably means he won't even acknowledge there is a problem.

We often feel like that Marine standing on the cliff with a sword, looking up at a 7-story dragon. We feel that way because religion is the perfect control mechanism. A facade of greatness, and an evil backdrop of control, discrimination, and hatred, make it the perfect four-headed monster, nearly impossible to defeat.

We're basically fighting the bad guy, while everyone thinks we're the bad guy.

But religion does have a weakness in logic. I'm making this public because I am sure there are multiple approaches that many very intelligent atheists could take, but my personal approach would not be to attack the religion at this point, because that will only bring division and make you his enemy. Instead, I would try to work with your father as closely as possible to be logical about every-day life--things that have nothing to do with religion just to get the ball rolling.

So how do we that? I would start by encouraging him to see a psychiatrist (or continue seeing one if he is) to make sure his medicine is up to date. If you can help him gain some consistency with his thoughts and emotions, he will be much more level-headed, and easier to talk to. Ask him how he feels, and if he felt better on medication in the past. Ask him what he wants out of life, and if emotional stability sounds refreshing.

Ask him questions and get his thoughts on politics, science, and biology. Not to debate him, but to allow him an opportunity to talk through these things on his own. You can be a voice on the other end of the phone (or perhaps Skype in your situation) to guide him along, and show him that he has the ability to be rational and make his own decisions when he weighs out the consequences.

Building his confidence in his own thoughts will help him to be more resistant to accepting the thoughts of others in group psychology. That one is very important, because we want him to trust his own logic. When things don't sound right, we want him to question that, not just accept it and assume he is wrong because "God knows best."

Once he begins to trust himself, and get the medication he needs, it may be time to ask him how he feels about some of the more difficult passages in the bible, and ask him how he resolves those conflicts internally.You want him to discover on his own, that these things are impossible. If you flat out say they are, he'll fight you every step of the way, and your resistance will only strengthen his religious bond.

I certainly hope we can stay updated with your situation and continue to offer help. Things like this are never resolved in single conversation, and I'm hopeful that more people will be able to offer more ideas.

Thanks for writing.

                                                 -David Smalley

5 comments:

Donovan Baker said...

Obviously "we" care about your father more than anything else in this equation.

My approach as an atheist:
I feel if I were in your shoes, I would want to find out who his church contact is and call them directly or write to them directly. I would explain the medical condition that he is under and tell them that you would appreciate since he trusts them so much to maybe find a way to suggest he get some medicine or see a doctor so that he can live a happier, healthy life. They will either care about him or not. This is the least intrusive you can be from my point of view. If the vibe is right you might even try to get that person to not mention you at all.

My Fiancee's approach as a believer:
She feels that if anything seems like you are intruding on their life, that they may alienate you all together. (I don't argue with this concern one bit.) She says you just should be working on building your relationship and more importantly your credibility with him and his wife. They need to eventually love to hear from you and want to ask your opinion on things. Once that is really strong, then you can ease into the discussion about them both getting their physicals and work the bi-polar medicine in. Without the credibility, being so far away, you may lose him. This means listening to the religious rants and so forth and never working against it. Just keep the focus on life and simpler things when you can.

My final comments:
My girl rocks. It may take much longer, but her way may be the safest. Atheists can abandoned by their families all the time, and with your distance, it is likely to be even more fragile. If you go my girls route, just keep in mind you love your father no matter what horrible things he may say to you. (I would almost treat it like he has Alzheimer's.) Refuse to take anything personal and agree when he seems adamant. I don't know if these are helpful or not, but we just had to respond. David is a great guy and I hope others can think of and throw ideas out too. Oh, and there is nothing that says you can't do both of these things at the same time. However, if the person you contact rats you out and doesn't play nice, you might lose him all together. So this may even end up being a more of a "how much time do you have" kind of decision. I wish this was better advice. Please keep us updated. We will be thinking about this for years.

Christina Wheeler said...
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Anonymous said...

Hi David (and Donovan)

Thankyou so much for taking the time to respond to my situation. Because my family has long ago stopped talking to him, I sometimes feel alone in the fight.

I've been trying the approach of staying in contact with him and talking about real life things and situations. Namely the landing of Curiosity and what cool possible knowledge can come from it. Also books I'm reading, podcast etc. He has been very responsive :), but I feel he's now choosing to withold his conspiracies from me. I have no contact with those in his life in another country, only him.

Of course he doesn't feel he has a problem and so therefore feels he needs no help. Growing up, my mother said I had always been the one who could keep his head on the ground, so maybe that's what I need to continue doing. I guess I can thank him for making me the critcal thinker I am today :)

I will keep you guys posted. Thank you again for giving me your time and sharing my story, I hope it can help others in similar situations.

Christina

Donovan Baker said...

Hang in there Christina. We will continue to wish you success in this and would really like to hear updates. I don't want you to feel you have to, but when you do, we will be reading them.

Donovan Baker said...

Hoping for an update soon.